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Yes, this is in response to something. No, this is not a slam against this person, but rather the comparison.

Anyone that compares the Civil Rights movement of the 60's to the Gay Rights movement of today (beyond the fact that they are both civil rights movements) doesn't own their privilege. I truly believe that - by comparing the two movements, we disregard how these intersect. Believe it or not, there are members of minority groups that are gay.

And another thing - why the Civil Right's movement? Why not the Women's movement? Is it because more people realize that a comparison of those two movements (gay rights and women's rights) is ridiculous?

JUST MY OPINION

on 2008-11-11 04:07 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tenninch.livejournal.com
I agree.

No matter how you try to frame it, if you start comparing oppressions, someone is going to manipulate it into a game of 'who is more oppressed' and that is just bad news all around, especially since it creates an Us v. Them dichotomy. Sometimes (I'd say all the time) Us is Them. Homophobia and racism aren't comparable, they're inseparable. You can't compare what should be essentially the same push for social justice. A lot of people just don't look at it that way, and the intersections get a shit end of not belonging to either by 'belonging' to both.

And, honestly? This shit is tiring. Trying to compare the two feels like the Civil Rights movement in the 60s is being co-opted when there are so many more valid ways to get the point across that queer people are being fucked all over the world. The comparison is being made in a political atmosphere where gay rights just got trampled on all over in the US, for all queers might I add, and we're going to engage in this kind of divisive dialogue? It's not helpful.

Re: JUST MY OPINION

on 2008-11-11 05:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] bnmc2005.livejournal.com
I think I like you.

That is all.

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